I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

I just thought I’d give an update as to what’s up with me these days. I’ve talked about this a bit here and there, but the house that was on sale since sometime mid-last year finally sold a few weeks ago, and I am formally moving out of the house I have inhabited off and on, mostly on, for about 10 years on the 26th. (This is why there hasn’t really been a lot of serious cooking around here lately.)

Now, I do not know yet where I am going to be moving. You might think this is a bit nuts, but I am in a very fortunate situation in that at this point the nature of my work, most of which can be done via online communication, allows me to live almost anywhere there is a high speed internet connection. So I do not have to stay in the Zürich area, or even in Switzerland. This freedom of choice has me in a mild state of panic and a deep state of confusion though. Where do I go? Where do I go? I keep on flipping through real estate ads in wildly different areas of the world, figuring out what is affordable. Invariably, I’m thinking like a food-obsessed person though.

Where in the world (where I have the right to live, or could easily get a working visa) should I go that will make my tastebuds happy and the cook inside me satisfied?

Anyway, let’s pretend that there are no tiresome restrictions like visas and such. If eating well were the only criteria, where in the world would you move to?

Of course in reality, I do have to consider things like visas, bureaucracy, stability of governments, availability of affordable healthcare and such, not to mention a pretty tight budget for the move. But for the moment I’m just letting my imagination run free here. In March I’m off to a particular favorite corner of the world to see if living there is realistic…

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Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

So, my first criteria ist language - I have spand last 12 years in three countries.

raan | 10 February, 2009 - 22:20

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

Well, if Japanese ingredients are important to you, then why not the west coast of America (like California or Washington) or even Hawaii?

What else is important to you?

hknk | 10 February, 2009 - 22:32

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

How about Spain, Italy or France?

Ricardo | 11 February, 2009 - 00:28

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Food wise hknk's choices are great.
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and there is an incredible amount of choice in food here. Not only variety of ingredients and freshness of seafood and fruits and veggies, but in the amazing diversity cultures in restaurants and groceries.
Plus being the home of PC's, Silicon Valley and IT, finding a job shouldn't be a problem. Tons of companies have work from home jobs over the internet.

Now the but...$$$Prices$$$. It is one of the most expensive places to live, real estate and daily living. However it may not be that much more than Zurich.

On the plus side though, prices in Hawaii and Japan don't seem so bad after living here. LOL!

What a great opportunity though, but yeah, I do get how that can be overwhelming.

BarbJ | 11 February, 2009 - 00:42

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

Well, I actually live in Sacramento and homes don't cost quite as much here. ^^; We have but one Japanese market (which recently relocated and upgraded), which I frequent, but there are many other Asian markets although I'm not sure if they carry any ingredients the Japanese market wouldn't.

Not that I'm suggesting this city, it's not exactly a dream.

hknk | 11 February, 2009 - 03:11

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

I second BarbJ's comments! Lived in SFBA all my life and absolutely love the food choices and food culture there. I _especially_ love it now, because I've lived in China for the last 8 months. Really missing the variety and high quality of food back home.

SteveK | 11 February, 2009 - 03:52

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

Vancouver, Canada! Huge asian population, so there's tons of asian grocery stores and shopping. Though I s'pose it's not particularly exotic or anything..

Aleria | 11 February, 2009 - 04:01

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Oh my frickin god. I wish they asked that question at job interviews. I'd have an easy time of it.

There is a little triangle (or not so little) in the East of Asia consisting of Tokyo, Hong Kong, and Seoul. My house will be a boathouse (or a whale, depending on what I'm reading at the moment) and I will travel between the three.

WOOT!

anon. | 11 February, 2009 - 05:38

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

What a good problem to have. Not sure where I'd go, but maybe Italy or Greece.

Kalyn | 11 February, 2009 - 06:28

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

SINGAPORE....where eating is a favourite pastime. The city is modern and charming. Easy access to Asia. Great weather.

anon. | 11 February, 2009 - 07:00

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

If japanese ingredients are important for you, then the most obvious choice is living in Japan; and it doesn't need to be Tokyo, you can live in smaller cities and still have access to japanese ingredients.

Tom | 11 February, 2009 - 07:04

eeh!

I agree that if Japanese food and ingredients are crucial, there's nowhere else than Japan. Everywhere else in the world has such limited and/or expensive items.

BUT.. if that's out of account, I DEFINITELY say MONTREAL. That city has such good vibes, incredibly multicultural, and let's not forget: AMAZING & VARIED FOOD. There's an ENDLESS choice of restaurants, tapas bars, dessert shops, artisan patissieres/bakeries. Most of them are little cute family-owned ones, which means that they're usually really warm and welcoming! For grocery shopping, there's so many authentic European delis. Chinatown is also really nice! Everyone is also veeeery friendly! Commuting and using the transit is never a bore, it's always a nice time to walk outside (maybe not as much in the winter). BUT YEAH, I love that city. I was born there and I miss it soooo much! I'm getting bored of Vancouver..

Oh well, Maki! I hope you find a good place to move to soon! I can't wait to resume serious cooking!

mika | 11 February, 2009 - 07:40

Re: eeh!

Montreal is a fantastic city, and I certainly couldn't ask to live anywhere better, but for the sake of fairness I'm going to have to point out that Japanese ingredients aren't nearly as easy to come by as they would be somewhere like Vancouver or San Francisco. Montreal doesn't have a sizeable Japanese community (I'm not sure whether that's important to you, Maki) and the majority of its asian groceries are either Chinese or Korean (although the Korean ones do tend to have a decent supply of Japanese ingredients). But you probably would have access to about the same or slightly better variety of Japanese ingredients that you currently do in Switzerland. And, as mika has said, for many many different kinds of food, Montreal really is a gastronomic paradise. We also host a large number of different festivals in the summer (Jazz Festival, Comedy Festival, Film Festivals, etc. etc.).

I should also point out that you need to have a decent command of French (or rather, Quebecois French, since the French spoken here bears little resemblance to what you'd be used to in Europe) to live in many areas, but there are still a fair number of areas where you can get by in English.

If you were interested in Montreal, I'd be glad to show you around. :)

Shanti | 11 February, 2009 - 15:31

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For food, I think few places can top Hawaii, especially if you like to garden, I've never tasted produce as fresh and delicious as I have there. The farmer's markets are enough for me. They sell papayas as though they were apples most places. I daydream about having my own garden in that rich volcanic soil. They also have such variety of cuisines and access to other fresh ingredients like seafood.

Japan, especialy Kyoto, seems awesome in terms of food quality too. The produce and seafood can't be beat. I also daydream about living on a green tea farm.

anon. | 11 February, 2009 - 07:41

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

What a great question to be able to ask oneself. I feel tied to the place we're in because of our children's school. (Not unhappy about it, just it would seem daunting to change a really great thing.) Is your partner's work as flexible, or have I missed something?

tami | 11 February, 2009 - 08:39

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

What a great question to be able to ask oneself. I feel tied to the place we're in because of our children's school. (Not unhappy about it, just it would seem daunting to change a really great thing.) Is your partner's work as flexible, or have I missed something?

tami | 11 February, 2009 - 08:39

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

Hawaii is great, but I don't think many of these suggestions come from people who live here and know how expensive it is D: Though I still love it here (just gotta live away from Waikiki, but you know how that is since you just visited)!

If I could live anywhere I'd probably go to Korea or China.., I love Japanese food, but I'd like to try another Asian culture out! Or Italy, Canada, or Russia.. mmm.

Ashleigh | 11 February, 2009 - 11:00

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

Vancouver you must move to vancouver... it's great town..

tellos | 11 February, 2009 - 13:15

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If you have the time do go and look, take one look on Berlin. I do like it here and it is quite "mulit-kulti" you will find food from almost everywhere but maybe adopted to the european eater

clarissa | 11 February, 2009 - 14:18

What a coincidence!

Right now, I live in France, Strasbourg. But I just got a job offer in San Francisco. I'm still debating whether going or not, as it seems like a great city. Langage is crucial for me, so I would suggest moving in a country where this is not an issue, so you have friends quite quickly.

So yeah, New York is awesome, so is San Fran and Berlin and Montreal. But weather wise....

Gegp* | 11 February, 2009 - 14:33

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

For food alone, I would go with San Francisco, NYC, or Hong Kong, all of which you can easily find Japanese/Asian ingredients. Very excited to see where you are moving...

Diana @ Appetite for China | 11 February, 2009 - 17:27

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Although I live in Los Angeles, I would agree with those who recommend San Francisco! Fantastic food city! There is a food blog called Hedonia. Check them out! http://hedonia.seantimberlake.com/ Good luck in your search. Is there a possibility that you can take a little vacation to your chosen spot before you actually move there? I wish that I would have done that before I moved clear across the country. Good luck Maki, it's a big world! Yippee!

rdhead1 | 11 February, 2009 - 17:39

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

I've been living in southern Calif. (O.C.) for almost 10 years now, and I like it a lot. I used to live in SF for 8 years, and I wouldn't move back. It's a nice city for eating out and going out. But if you're more of a homebody, like to cook at home, relax and enjoy the sun, then it's not the place. Sure there are tons of Japanese restaurants (I question the authenticity though), but there are rarely any Japanese markets...well, there are in Japan Town with no free parking (if you can find parking). There are mostly Chinese markets. I'm not Japanese but I love eating and cooking Japanese food. Mitsuwa and Marukai are easily accessible. And there are far more authentic Japanese restaurants in southern Cal. I'm not actually promoting O.C., I just wouldn't recommend SF ^_^

Pat | 11 February, 2009 - 22:46

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

The food is one of the main reasons why I would move to Japan immediately - if I was given the chance...

The variety and quality of japanese food is amazing and a lot of things are just tough or impossible to get outside Japan. Each region or town has its own delicacy and in each season you eat food only available or especially delicious that time of the year - e.g. fresh bamboo sprouts in May, rice cakes around New Year, etc..
And this is only the food, let´s not talk about hot springs...

Can´t we just switch lifes and I move to Japan in your place ;-)

dani | 11 February, 2009 - 23:23

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I think another country in Europe would be nice. I absolutely love Europe, so many different kinds of buildings and food and fashion! Since food is a main concern, I suggest France! Anywhere in France is fine. There are lots of pastries and desserts and dishes to be savoured in France.

My personal favorite place though, is London, England. In central London, there are many many small but very very nice restaurants of food from all places. I've had some great Italian, French, Indian, Thai, Moroccan, and even Lebanese food! It's a lovely city.

Eliza | 12 February, 2009 - 02:41

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

If I was able to move anywhere in the world without any of the restrictions I would move to Japan, other than that I would not want to leave Australia.

Come and live in Australia for awhile. ^^

MissB | 12 February, 2009 - 07:40

i agree with those before

vancouver, british columbia. so close to seattle, washington. such a beautiful area - you will fall in love with the pacific northwest. easy trip to san francisco - you can go on food trips to that amazing city. you can stay there for longer vacations and walk to farmer's markets and visit nijiya (japanese grocery). but then you can go back to your home up north which is a little more wild and spacious and has a bustling asian community and all the treats that go along with that.

anon. | 12 February, 2009 - 08:32

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

Very interesting comments...lots of uh, food for thought :)

There are a couple of things that concern me about a few places suggested:

- San Francisco: The price of housing is, I think, still outrageous? (This also speaks against NYC and London)
- The US in general: The lack of affordable health care options is a real deal killer for people like me (e.g. freelance type income making up a big bulk of my income, not old or infirm enough to qualify for Medicare etc, not rich enough to pay full price). Honestly, and without making this political, the US health care system really needs to be fixed.
- Japan. This may sound odd coming from a Japanese person, but Japan is a great place - to visit. To live there, for a Japanese person who has spent way too much time outside of Japan, can be very tough on many levels entirely unrelated to food. On the other hand I do plan to spend more time there, like at least a couple of months a year if possible. (the move and things are all about simplifying our lives and having more freedom etc without being tied down financially too much, etc)
- Canada could be interesting (have to see about the visa issues) though Montreal in winter is COLD...
- I have to visit Australia, Singapore, etc for sure!
- I would seriously consider Hawaii...but see above re: US health care :(.

Also, I have realized that my criteria for what makes a great place to live food-wise may differ a bit from some other people's. The availability of Asian ingredients is not that big a deal - I've learned to adapt to what I have on hand, and there's always mom and mailorder. The number of restaurants etc. is not such a big deal either. I guess what makes a great place to live food-wise would be a place where fresh, top quality ingredients are readily available, especially produce and fish. Here in Zürich the one thing lacking for me is the ready availability of really fresh (and reasonably priced...) seawater fish. (There's excellent freshwater fish in season though.)

maki | 12 February, 2009 - 10:54

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

If the availability of seafood and housing costs were an issue, I would highly recommend Australia. I personally wouldn't live anywhere apart from Sydney, and given how weak the Australian dollar is now, you'd get a great deal. Plus there is a great immigration policy for skilled professionals, universal health care and mild temperate weather with plenty of sun in summer! It's close to Asia too. You should take a trip to several Australian cities if you have the chance to.

anon. | 22 February, 2009 - 13:10

Re: I'm moving! I'm moving! But where to go?

My top three choices of where to live if food was the only factor involved in my decision:

Vietnam
Mexico
China

Montreal is a good choice for food variety, and there are some good places for asian foods on the south shore.

Maki, you may want to look at individual state-sponsored health care options in the USA. Some states have decently priced medical coverage for self-employed people.

umi | 12 February, 2009 - 22:17

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